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		<title>By: chris daniggelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris daniggelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Memento, the film is set up to be an endless cycle---the act of &quot;Inception&quot; seems to be a talent not limited to Dom Cobb.  The film begins with an ending, just like Memento, whose main character, injects a clue that leads him, not to the murder of his wife, but to kill the evil man that takes advantage of his condition, ending his search for good.  In Inception, Mal interrupts the &quot;kick&quot; agreement between Saito and Cobb until the film&#039;s actual end, where both can be freed from the cycle:  The cause of the break in the cycle is due to the absence of Mal&#039;s projection, killed by the young Architect Ariadne .  Michael Caine, Mal&#039;s Father and Ariadne teacher is the inventor of this process--and reveals his motive to get Cobb &quot;back to reality&quot;--he sends his best student, with whom, Cobb is very impressed, and she kills Mal (throughout the film, there is a strange tension between Mal and Ariadne ) which is a projection of Cobb&#039;s fear that she will be removed.  

Another strange loop in the film is the shifting totems. . .since Cobb knew of Mal&#039;s totem, he could manipulate her.  Saito, the architect, also knows of Cobb&#039;s Wife&#039;s totem, but not of the ring.  If Michael Caine is Cobb&#039;s father-in-law, then he must have known his own daughter well (the sub-plot is parallel, a outside group trying to make the son &quot;fischer&quot; understand his father)  .  Has Caine lost her and is trying to keep his projections trapped?  I found this on Wiki about totems and also some interesting concepts of totems being family histories, sometimes shameful, and non-linear:

&quot;Vertical order of images is widely believed to be a significant representation of importance. This idea is so pervasive that it has entered into common parlance with the phrase &quot;low man on the totem pole.&quot; This phrase is indicative of the most common belief of ordering importance, that the higher figures on the pole are more important or prestigious. A counterargument frequently heard is that figures are arranged in a &quot;reverse hierarchy&quot; style, with the most important representations being on the bottom, and the least important being on top. Actually there have never been any restrictions on vertical order, many poles have significant figures on the top, others on the bottom, and some in the middle. Other poles have no vertical arrangement at all, consisting of a lone figure atop an undecorated column&quot;.

With this idea in mind--Caine, the least of the characters, (but, &quot;in reality&quot; the most famous) is the most powerful in the film.  The point about the film being a metaphor for film making--is good.  I think it is interesting to look at Nolans&#039; film 
&quot;The Following&quot; and &quot;Memento&quot; to come to the final theme:  how hard it is for humankind to gain any concrete sense of control on anything given autobiographical stress, socialization, psychology, memory and it&#039;s ever changing face.  It is Victorian arrogance to think that with all the information we ingest, our perception of our experiences, that any thought or decision is our own, that we are the master&#039;s of our fate.  Would we really want to be the Master of our fate?   I would really like someone to punch holes through this. . . any thoughts. . .as a final note, Dom Cobb and Mal grow old together for fifty years. . .without their kids, where are they in the dream, how is there unchanging youth accounted for except through memory.  When Cobb calls his children on the phone and asks Caine to deliver a gift, who interrupts the phone call?  the Grandmother or Mal, is Caine caught in a dream of his own, and why is Caine waiting at the airport on the side that Cobb so badly wants to return. . .when, in an earlier scene, they speaking face to face.  What allows Caine to gain admittance to both &quot;levels&quot;. . .I think I know.   One must read Flann O&#039;Brien&#039;s &quot;The Third Policeman&quot; and also Kafka&#039;s Parables &quot;The Law&quot; and &quot; An Imperial Message&quot;--What is truly &#039;Inceptive&quot; about the film is that after you watch it and begin to go over scene by scene with family and friends, because of the sameness of all of the main characters, after a day or two, how people recall the film is adjusted to the argument they are trying to make and causes the viewer to want to return to the theater (in this case &quot;reality&quot; to figure it out. . .  (copyrighted by Christopher Daniggelis, 2010)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Memento, the film is set up to be an endless cycle&#8212;the act of &#8220;Inception&#8221; seems to be a talent not limited to Dom Cobb.  The film begins with an ending, just like Memento, whose main character, injects a clue that leads him, not to the murder of his wife, but to kill the evil man that takes advantage of his condition, ending his search for good.  In Inception, Mal interrupts the &#8220;kick&#8221; agreement between Saito and Cobb until the film&#8217;s actual end, where both can be freed from the cycle:  The cause of the break in the cycle is due to the absence of Mal&#8217;s projection, killed by the young Architect Ariadne .  Michael Caine, Mal&#8217;s Father and Ariadne teacher is the inventor of this process&#8211;and reveals his motive to get Cobb &#8220;back to reality&#8221;&#8211;he sends his best student, with whom, Cobb is very impressed, and she kills Mal (throughout the film, there is a strange tension between Mal and Ariadne ) which is a projection of Cobb&#8217;s fear that she will be removed.  </p>
<p>Another strange loop in the film is the shifting totems. . .since Cobb knew of Mal&#8217;s totem, he could manipulate her.  Saito, the architect, also knows of Cobb&#8217;s Wife&#8217;s totem, but not of the ring.  If Michael Caine is Cobb&#8217;s father-in-law, then he must have known his own daughter well (the sub-plot is parallel, a outside group trying to make the son &#8220;fischer&#8221; understand his father)  .  Has Caine lost her and is trying to keep his projections trapped?  I found this on Wiki about totems and also some interesting concepts of totems being family histories, sometimes shameful, and non-linear:</p>
<p>&#8220;Vertical order of images is widely believed to be a significant representation of importance. This idea is so pervasive that it has entered into common parlance with the phrase &#8220;low man on the totem pole.&#8221; This phrase is indicative of the most common belief of ordering importance, that the higher figures on the pole are more important or prestigious. A counterargument frequently heard is that figures are arranged in a &#8220;reverse hierarchy&#8221; style, with the most important representations being on the bottom, and the least important being on top. Actually there have never been any restrictions on vertical order, many poles have significant figures on the top, others on the bottom, and some in the middle. Other poles have no vertical arrangement at all, consisting of a lone figure atop an undecorated column&#8221;.</p>
<p>With this idea in mind&#8211;Caine, the least of the characters, (but, &#8220;in reality&#8221; the most famous) is the most powerful in the film.  The point about the film being a metaphor for film making&#8211;is good.  I think it is interesting to look at Nolans&#8217; film<br />
&#8220;The Following&#8221; and &#8220;Memento&#8221; to come to the final theme:  how hard it is for humankind to gain any concrete sense of control on anything given autobiographical stress, socialization, psychology, memory and it&#8217;s ever changing face.  It is Victorian arrogance to think that with all the information we ingest, our perception of our experiences, that any thought or decision is our own, that we are the master&#8217;s of our fate.  Would we really want to be the Master of our fate?   I would really like someone to punch holes through this. . . any thoughts. . .as a final note, Dom Cobb and Mal grow old together for fifty years. . .without their kids, where are they in the dream, how is there unchanging youth accounted for except through memory.  When Cobb calls his children on the phone and asks Caine to deliver a gift, who interrupts the phone call?  the Grandmother or Mal, is Caine caught in a dream of his own, and why is Caine waiting at the airport on the side that Cobb so badly wants to return. . .when, in an earlier scene, they speaking face to face.  What allows Caine to gain admittance to both &#8220;levels&#8221;. . .I think I know.   One must read Flann O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s &#8220;The Third Policeman&#8221; and also Kafka&#8217;s Parables &#8220;The Law&#8221; and &#8221; An Imperial Message&#8221;&#8211;What is truly &#8216;Inceptive&#8221; about the film is that after you watch it and begin to go over scene by scene with family and friends, because of the sameness of all of the main characters, after a day or two, how people recall the film is adjusted to the argument they are trying to make and causes the viewer to want to return to the theater (in this case &#8220;reality&#8221; to figure it out. . .  (copyrighted by Christopher Daniggelis, 2010)</p>
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		<title>By: JZP</title>
		<link>http://kylelibra.com/2010/07/27/understanding-the-meaning-behind-inception/comment-page-1/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>JZP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this post isn&#039;t complete without mentioning this video about the &#039;secret&#039; in the music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&amp;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this post isn&#8217;t complete without mentioning this video about the &#8216;secret&#8217; in the music</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&#038;amp</a>;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://kylelibra.com/2010/07/27/understanding-the-meaning-behind-inception/comment-page-1/#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think instead of general technical person he should be considered as that plus the effects guy.  He causes the rain in the first dream during Inception (it is caused because he drank too much on the flight and that is all he can think about).  He is also responsible for the zero gravity in Arthur&#039;s dream because of the van tipping over in his own dream.  I think he represents a lot of the lesser known behind the scenes people on a film set.  It takes sometimes hundreds of people to get a movie made and I think he is a tiny bit of most of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think instead of general technical person he should be considered as that plus the effects guy.  He causes the rain in the first dream during Inception (it is caused because he drank too much on the flight and that is all he can think about).  He is also responsible for the zero gravity in Arthur&#8217;s dream because of the van tipping over in his own dream.  I think he represents a lot of the lesser known behind the scenes people on a film set.  It takes sometimes hundreds of people to get a movie made and I think he is a tiny bit of most of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a movie that definition makes you think.  I&#039;m considering seeing it at least one more time in theaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a movie that definition makes you think.  I&#8217;m considering seeing it at least one more time in theaters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://kylelibra.com/2010/07/27/understanding-the-meaning-behind-inception/comment-page-1/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading!  I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading!  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good interview.  I read that before writing this blog post, but I decided against putting Rao&#039;s quote in here.  When I got to that point I figured I had said everything I wanted said already and the article was getting really long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good interview.  I read that before writing this blog post, but I decided against putting Rao&#8217;s quote in here.  When I got to that point I figured I had said everything I wanted said already and the article was getting really long.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a weekly podcast about movies.  It is usually quite good, but this past week they brought on Armond White who is rather notorious for hating on anything popular.  He has said on multiple occasions that Roger Ebert ruined film criticism.  He had a lot of valid points, but for every thing I agreed with there were probably ten statements that I did not agree with.  

Usually they get into talking about stuff like this blog post.  They read a lot of viewer e-mails concerning theories about films and discuss them.  Unfortunately in this last episode they spend so much time talking with Armond White about film in general they don&#039;t have much time to explore any of the theories about Inception.  They gloss over a lot of stuff because they were running long.  Hopefully in next week&#039;s show they will get back to a little discussion of Inception because they didn&#039;t really do it justice.

Long story short, I would highly recommend checking out the podcast if you like movies.  You can check it out on iTunes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a weekly podcast about movies.  It is usually quite good, but this past week they brought on Armond White who is rather notorious for hating on anything popular.  He has said on multiple occasions that Roger Ebert ruined film criticism.  He had a lot of valid points, but for every thing I agreed with there were probably ten statements that I did not agree with.  </p>
<p>Usually they get into talking about stuff like this blog post.  They read a lot of viewer e-mails concerning theories about films and discuss them.  Unfortunately in this last episode they spend so much time talking with Armond White about film in general they don&#8217;t have much time to explore any of the theories about Inception.  They gloss over a lot of stuff because they were running long.  Hopefully in next week&#8217;s show they will get back to a little discussion of Inception because they didn&#8217;t really do it justice.</p>
<p>Long story short, I would highly recommend checking out the podcast if you like movies.  You can check it out on iTunes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what these other people posted is what I pretty much agree with.  I like what you&#039;re thinking about a director getting caught up in a dream world.  A lot of those guys definitely seem to be living in some other fantasy world we aren&#039;t aware of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what these other people posted is what I pretty much agree with.  I like what you&#8217;re thinking about a director getting caught up in a dream world.  A lot of those guys definitely seem to be living in some other fantasy world we aren&#8217;t aware of.</p>
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		<title>By: Julet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Bay?  Really?</description>
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		<title>By: Chrissie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrissie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is /filmcast?</description>
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